"Where Olmsted County News Comes First"
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Thursday, May 23rd, 2013
Volume ∞ Issue ∞
- 5:36:49, May 15th 2013 - Frank Hawthorne - Though I hated to see you reference Glenn Beck by name [Three Times ... [Read More]
- 11:42:07, May 10th 2013 - yenken - I feel very sorry for those who have commented do far, as when you stand fa ... [Read More]
- 12:10:25, Apr 26th 2013 - Frank Hawthorne - Mr. "Cabtrom's" garbage-out[burst]--in response to Ms. Reisner's w ... [Read More]
- 9:51:50, Apr 24th 2013 - jeff pischke - To Jerry Grehl, the number to the fillmore county sheriffs office is 7 ... [Read More]
- 9:27:24, Apr 22nd 2013 - Cabtrom - Blah blah blah, garbage in garbage out! ... [Read More]
- 7:00:49, Apr 11th 2013 - Donald Pierce - Col. Stan Gudmundson hit most of the important nails squarly on the h ... [Read More]
- 12:44:54, Apr 4th 2013 - Frank Hawthorne - My compliments to Ms. Hammer for giving us well-crafted "Rachel Rea ... [Read More]
- 5:09:06, Apr 3rd 2013 - truthiness - I see this is dated April 1. That explains it! ... [Read More]
- 12:04:33, Apr 3rd 2013 - Frank W. Hawthorne - Say WHAT?!? Stan's American-Pie [In SKY] is Falling--Not Again? ... [Read More]
- 12:40:21, Mar 29th 2013 - Jacob - It's a shame that so few people care about making their voices heard. If we ... [Read More]
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Comments:
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Neil Malm says:I agree and would like to see a rational debate on this issue.
Do you realize you are asking for rational reasonable debate, then urge everyone to hurry debate before the emotion fades about Sandy Point? You seem to be arguing both ways. I can kind of understand that though. It is hard not to be emotional. Personally, I am still livid and enraged about Sandy Point. How can we have let this happen again? Why haven't we put armed guards (visible and concealed) in our schools, businesses? It is insane.
One of the problems with Gun Control is. As terrible, tragic, and horror able as Sandy Point and other gun massacres are. We have to remember it takes Governments to really perfect Mass Murder. Stalin, Moa, Pol Pot, and yes Hilter massacred as many as 50 million between them all. Guns are our last line of defense against that happening. Our founding fathers had just fought a war with tremendous loss of life and property. They without a doubt understood how destructive guns can be. They had only to look at the advantage of guns over bows and arrows to see further proof.
I have to ask how much of the "Issue" is GUN Control though? To me this is as much about guns, as drunk driving is about cars. Both are involved but not the real cause. This is about Mental health, a culture of Violence, and drugs.
I did some research about Gun massacres and it seemed pretty clear these are mentally disturbed people. They are very angry. They plan their attacks and scout for the place to make their attack. And they go to where they think they can kill without someone stopping them. They bring a wide variety and multiple quantities of weapons obtained legally or illegally. They want to go out in a blaze of media hype and notoriety.
We have a culture of Violence. The FBI figures I found were through 2011. They show in 2011 the USA had 12,664 Murders. 8583 with guns, 1694 with Knifes cutting objects, 1163 from other ways, 728 with hands, 496 with Blunt objects. Britain with its gun bans had 551 murders. So with a comparable population they would have around 2725 non gun murders to Americas 4081 Non gun murders. This would seem to show America is far more Violent than Britain in general.
More gun have been sold in the last 4 years than the previous 7 years and yet crime and Murder are down for the last 4 years. This seems to destroy the idea GUNs are the problem.
So what do we do?
We put armed guards and concealed carry people in our schools and businesses so these people do not have an easy target for their rampages.
We have to study why these people are venting their rage this way.
We have to stop the culture of Violence that is pushed, encourage in America by Hollywood, TV, Music, Video games to name a few. It is about a News media that encourages copycats with their coverage of these attacks. I was totally outraged that Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3D came out shortly after Sandy Hook.
People want to ban a gun( assault rifles) because of how it looks. This to me is should set off alarms for these people. Why aren't we looking at what is promoting that look that as a weapon to be used to go on rampages with? Our Media in Hollywood? Large clip bans will be largely ineffective as many of these killers have carried 3-4 pistols with 10 round clips. That is 30-40 shots in the same time as one 30 round clip.
We have to look at the way Drugs factor into the violence in America. As much as 80-90% of crime is for, over, or under the influence of drugs.
These are the issues I believe we have to address in this country TODAY if we are to stop these attacks.
Do you realize you are asking for rational reasonable debate, then urge everyone to hurry debate before the emotion fades about Sandy Point? You seem to be arguing both ways. I can kind of understand that though. It is hard not to be emotional. Personally, I am still livid and enraged about Sandy Point. How can we have let this happen again? Why haven't we put armed guards (visible and concealed) in our schools, businesses? It is insane.
One of the problems with Gun Control is. As terrible, tragic, and horror able as Sandy Point and other gun massacres are. We have to remember it takes Governments to really perfect Mass Murder. Stalin, Moa, Pol Pot, and yes Hilter massacred as many as 50 million between them all. Guns are our last line of defense against that happening. Our founding fathers had just fought a war with tremendous loss of life and property. They without a doubt understood how destructive guns can be. They had only to look at the advantage of guns over bows and arrows to see further proof.
I have to ask how much of the "Issue" is GUN Control though? To me this is as much about guns, as drunk driving is about cars. Both are involved but not the real cause. This is about Mental health, a culture of Violence, and drugs.
I did some research about Gun massacres and it seemed pretty clear these are mentally disturbed people. They are very angry. They plan their attacks and scout for the place to make their attack. And they go to where they think they can kill without someone stopping them. They bring a wide variety and multiple quantities of weapons obtained legally or illegally. They want to go out in a blaze of media hype and notoriety.
We have a culture of Violence. The FBI figures I found were through 2011. They show in 2011 the USA had 12,664 Murders. 8583 with guns, 1694 with Knifes cutting objects, 1163 from other ways, 728 with hands, 496 with Blunt objects. Britain with its gun bans had 551 murders. So with a comparable population they would have around 2725 non gun murders to Americas 4081 Non gun murders. This would seem to show America is far more Violent than Britain in general.
More gun have been sold in the last 4 years than the previous 7 years and yet crime and Murder are down for the last 4 years. This seems to destroy the idea GUNs are the problem.
So what do we do?
We put armed guards and concealed carry people in our schools and businesses so these people do not have an easy target for their rampages.
We have to study why these people are venting their rage this way.
We have to stop the culture of Violence that is pushed, encourage in America by Hollywood, TV, Music, Video games to name a few. It is about a News media that encourages copycats with their coverage of these attacks. I was totally outraged that Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3D came out shortly after Sandy Hook.
People want to ban a gun( assault rifles) because of how it looks. This to me is should set off alarms for these people. Why aren't we looking at what is promoting that look that as a weapon to be used to go on rampages with? Our Media in Hollywood? Large clip bans will be largely ineffective as many of these killers have carried 3-4 pistols with 10 round clips. That is 30-40 shots in the same time as one 30 round clip.
We have to look at the way Drugs factor into the violence in America. As much as 80-90% of crime is for, over, or under the influence of drugs.
These are the issues I believe we have to address in this country TODAY if we are to stop these attacks.
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11:40:40, Jan 23rd 2013
Fletch says:With over 2000 gun laws on the books, how can people honestly believe that more regulation is the answer?
Statistics from around the world prove that banning and trying to regulate gun ownership not only leads to more violent crimes and murder, but also opens the door wide for government tyranny. And despite your comment regarding Hitler, you need not look that far into history. North Korea comes to mind immediately.
Thank you.